Postfix DMARC,DKIM,SPF Setup landet im Office365 Junk Ordner

Hallo,

ich bin jetzt mit meine Latein am Ende... meine mails vom Postfix landen im Junk bei Office365 Empfängern.
Ich habe folgende Konstelation:

Neuer Server mit einer frischen Postfix Installtion mit DMAR, DKIM, SPF Einträgen:

ServerHostname: mail.meinedomain.at

PTR: mail.meinedomain.at <-- löst zur Hostadresse richtig auf
MX: mail.meinedomain.at
A: mail.meinedomain.at <-- löst zur Hostadresse richtig auf

_dmarc.meinedomain.at 
"v=DMARC1; p=reject; rua=mailto:xxx@meinedomain.at.at; ruf=mailto:xxx@meinedomain.at; fo=0; adkim=s; aspf=s; pct=100; rf=afrf; sp=reject"  

mail._domainkey.meinedomain.at
"v=DKIM1; k=rsa; " 	"p=PUPKEY......."  

SPF record:
"v=spf1 ip4:Hostadresse -all"  

Check gegen div. Blacklist ergibt kein Ergebniss.
Im Log sieht man auch wie outlook die Mail aufnimmt und mit einem 250er quittiert
LogAuszug:

Untrusted TLS connection established to dddddd-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.12.36]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bit
-----------
2021-11-17T13:50:19.856547+00:00 mail postfix/smtp[1305]: 3086A380620E: to=<xxx@ddd-ddd.com>, relay=dddd-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.12.36]:25, delay=1.7, delays=0.33/0.01/0.67/0.73, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 <a05ada55-96dd-dcd3-52e6-63c4e42b3674@meinedomain.at> [InternalId=23081154257926, Hostname=AM9P251MB0254.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM] 11496 bytes in 0.075, 148.792 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery)

Was übersehe ich hier?

Dank u Gruß

Bitte markiere auch die Kommentare, die zur Lösung des Beitrags beigetragen haben

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Hallo

Zitat von @godlie:

> **Untrusted TLS connection** established to dddddd-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.12.36]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bit
> -----------
> 2021-11-17T13:50:19.856547+00:00 mail postfix/smtp[1305]: 3086A380620E: to=<xxx@ddd-ddd.com>, relay=dddd-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.12.36]:25, delay=1.7, delays=0.33/0.01/0.67/0.73, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 <a05ada55-96dd-dcd3-52e6-63c4e42b3674@meinedomain.at> [InternalId=23081154257926, Hostname=AM9P251MB0254.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM] 11496 bytes in 0.075, 148.792 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery)
> 

Untrusted = Zertifikate ist nicht sauber hinterlegt.
Ist unschön, aber nicht der Grund das deine Mails im Spam landen.

Was übersehe ich hier?

Wie sieht der Email Header aus?

Hast du einen grössen auschnitt aus der Log Datei?
Am besten den kompletten von einer Mail

Danke

Hallo!

Du lieferst leider die falschen Logs. Du musst im Outlook-365 oder Hotmail-Postfach den Header anschauen. Da findest Du den Grund.

Vermutlich ist es ein Problem mit DKIM. Microsoft hält sich da nicht an alle Standards. Wenn Mails mit ISO statt UTF-Zeichensatz kommen, werden sie teilweise verändert, was die Signatur invalide macht.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/9aeb0b27-1c41-4087-b33 ...
https://www.postmastery.com/proper-mime-prevents-dkim-failures-in-outloo ...

Ich hatte das Problem auch und bin komplett auf UTF-8 gegangen. Seitdem ist Ruhe...

Phil

Hallo,

danke erstmal für die Hilfestellung, nachdem ich gestern einmal im O365 Interface auf "Ist kein Junk" geklickt habe werden sie jetzt im Posteingang zugestellt, anbei der Header einer Mail

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:40:13 +0100

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To: dddd@dddd.com

From: xxxx <xxxx.xxxx@meinedomain.at>

Subject: Testmai

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@Der-Phil
ich gehe eig. davon aus das Thunderbird in der Kombi mit Postfix eig. alles als UTF-8 liefert, bei mir wird alles als rein Text gesendet

Sodala jetzt hab ich noch die Headers von eine Postfach, wo selbige Mail als Spam eingestuft wird, auf die schnelle seh ich da nicht wirklich was

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@Der-Phil
Hab mir das grad im Header angeschaut, sollte UTF-8 sein

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@tagol01
Hier is noch der Log vom MailServer an die o365 Logs komm ich nicht ran ...

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